@roman78 @scottwilson still...

• Feels like #bloatware the same way #Windows10 & #Windows11 are constantly shoveling #MicrosoftOffice on a device even against explicit consent of the user & admin!

@NicolasStrobl @Techaltar that's the cool part:

• YOU DIDN'T!

Because #Microsoft constantly shoves #bloatware, #adware and other garbage onto #Windows10 & #Windows11 machines!

https://www.deviantart.com/imswordqueeen/art/Windows-10-21H2-22H2-to-7-Transformation-Pack-1081353677

https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/5978154

@bagder #curl - typical #Bloatware

@Josteglitz @lothar ja, das ist ne "#Notwendigkeit" wenn das Gerät "vergoogled" geliefert wird mit #GooglePlay + #Bloatware drauf!

@enigmatico @lispi314 @kimapr @bunnybeam case in point:

• #Bloatedness was the original post topic and yes, due to #TechBros "#BuildFastBreakThings" mentality, #Bloatware is increasing given that a shitty bloated 50+MB "#WebApp" with like nw.js is easy to slap together (and yes I did so myself!) than to put in way more thought and effort (as you can see on the slow progression of OS/1337...

• Yes, #Accessibility is something that needs to be taken more seriously and it's good to see that there's at least some attemots at making #accessibility mandatory (at least in #Germany, where I know from some insider that a big telco is investing a lot in that!) for a growng number of industries and websites...

• And whilst one can slap an #RTX5090 on any laptop that has a fully-functional #ExpressCard slot (with #PCIe interface, using some janky adaptors!) that'll certainly not make sense beyond some #CUDA or other #GPGPU-style workloads as it's bottlenecked to a single PCIe lane of 2.0 (500MB/s) or just 1.0a(250MB/s) speeds.

Needless to say there is a need to THINN DOWN things cuz the current speed of #Enshittifcation and bloatedness combined with #AntiRepairDesign and overpriced yet worse #tech in general makes it unsustainable for an ever increasing population!

• Not everyone wants (or even can!) indebt themselves just to have a phone or laptop!

Should we aim for more "#FrugslComputing"?

• Abdolutely!

Is it realistic to expect things to be in a perfectly accessible TUI that ebery screenreader can handle?

• No!

That being said the apathy of consumers is real, and very frustrating:

People get nudged into accepting all the bs and it really pisses me off because they want me to look like ab outsider / asshole for not submitting to #consumerism and #unsustainable shite...

@bagder Problem with that is (besides occasional bugfixes), most people including myself would see #curl to be functionally complete and anything "nice to have" would be considered not worth the balooning in #complexity and #size.

• I mean, does curl need to be able to do #BitTorrent (magnet:), #IPFS (ipfs://) or god forbid #blockchain (i.e. #EVM) support?

• Do you really want to integrate @torproject / #Tor support natively into curl when using #HTTP (localhost:8118) and #SOCKS5 (localhost:9050) #proxy allows for the same and doesn't necessitate having to handle and ingest Tor arguments as well??

In fact if #toybox didn't have a #wget implementation that I could use for OS/1337 I would've merely chosen tiny-curl -o as a global alias or if #tinycurl wasn't an option, curl -o instead.

• Maybe someone who wants to have said functionality like tor support built-in will go and IDK make i.e. #neocurl or sth. along those lines or build something like #ethcurl or #torcurlor #ipfscurl or whatever...

That being said I am glad curl isn't solely maintained by you but has other contributors (give them a shoutout!) but I also am glad you maintain that vital software that most "#TechIlliterate #Normies" most likely never heard of but propably use on a daily basis as part of all the #tech they use to #consume media with...

• I consider curl to be "the #vim of downloaders" (tho that's kinda insulting and limiting since curl is more than just a downloader and more intuitive than vim) with wget being "the #vi of downloaders" (tho wget is even simpler to use than vi)...

Either way, curl is awesome...

@Doridian @foone yeah, but then you move the problem to somewhere else and god forbid it's some #Bloatware like #UEFI!

• I mean, we already see #FPGA|s being used to workaround the #DRM of #Apple's #AntiRepairDesign in #Firmware...

@Life_is_Beautiful @iode @voxel nit necessarily.

@LineageOS is built of #AOSP...

• Personally I just think any #CFW should deliver something better than the #Bloatware-laced shite that #Google mandates for #GooglePlay!

It's just a shame #Device vendors don't work with @GrapheneOS cuz I am convinced that would really benefit everyone...

@jakob_thoboell @DigitalWriter@bildung.social @jdohrmann EXAKT DAS Sehe ich genauso.

• #Microsoft's #Lobbyismus im #Bildungssystem, zusammen mit der Tatsache dass es (soweit ich weiß immernoch) möglich ist nen #Abitur ohne #Informatikunterricht zu erhalten ist erschreckend.

Zumal #Windows und #MicrosoftOffice nicht nur unbrauchbare #Govware & #Bloatware sind, sondern deren nicht-standardkonformes Verhalten problematisch ist!

• Angesichts von @nextcloud / #Nextcloud und @CollaboraOffice / #CollaboraOffice gibt's IMHO umso weniger Gründe sich #WinSchrott anzutun, und umso meur Gründe #ThinClients mit #Browser auf #Linux-Basis einzusetzen, weil eh alles als #WebApp umsetzbar ist!

@liamvhogan nodds in,agreement.to all of those things

It's just garbage #Bloatware that should be illegal and I proudly refuse to use that shite!

@wravoc IMHO, #TPM & #UEFI are both #Scams and neither can be trusted due to being #backdoored and #Bloatware respectably.

Personally, I want a machine that is purposefully #incompatible with #CensorBoot by #Microsoft (and thus #Windows11) by using #LinuxBoot / #NERF and no TPM at all!

Sadly I guess that means I've to use the #RISCv version of the @frameworkcomputer mainboard for that...

The fact that UEFI has more code than the #Linux #Kernel with all it's drivers yet less than 100 contributors makes it inacceptable!