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#deltachat

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Today we are unveiling two brand new features by ... drum-roll ... doing nothing:

- No "AI" integration involved or planned. Consequently, you don't need to teach your relatives how to disable AI!

- No proprietary server components: servers are fast, efficient and freely replicable, no permissions needed!

Moreover, our apps are easier to use and onboard with than SIM/phone number based apps: Multi-device and Multi-profile handling is a piece of cake.

I'm planning on trying #DeltaChat, how important is it to try to distribute the load accross chatmail servers?
If it's worth distributing it, are there any servers in France?
The list from chatmail.at/relays does not include anything but I don't know whether it's comprehensive.

chatmail.atChatmail: RelaysChatmail provides FOSS infrastructure for interoperable, secure, speedy and reliable end-to-end encrypted messaging. Check out clients as Arcane Chat, Bots or Delta Chat today!

Jeder Messenger hat seine Fans – aber manche Communitys sind echt anstrengend. Die größten Missionare findet man mit Abstand bei Threema, dicht gefolgt von Delta Chat. Kritik? Undenkbar. Da wird sofort erklärt, warum du das Problem bist.

Aber hey, sollen sie ruhig über mich herziehen – die kostenlose Werbung nehm ich doch gern mit. Wenn sie sich schon aufopfern, um meinen Namen in ihren Filterblasen zu verbreiten, will ich da nicht im Weg stehen. 😁

The trajectory of E2E-encryption is about de-platforming: There shall be no central machines that can control the edges/peers, and the social groups and virtual centers they freely form.

Our #deltachat R&D around #chatmail relays and #webxdc apps all aim to realize such a "zero-platforms" fully E2E-encrypted interaction model. However, this is *not* just about cryptographic cleverness. Rather it is about usable anti-authoritarian designs, as explicitly stated in January delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxd

delta.chatDelta Chat: Replacing billionairish platforms with ZIP files
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@delta@chaos.social

Moin.

Ich nutze eine separate Mailbox nur für Chat und eine Änderungsmöglichkeit für den Betreff würde ich auch begrüssen.

Gerade in Hinblick auf Kontakte, die nicht #DeltaChat nutzen, kann es irritierend sein, E-Mails zu erhalten, deren Betreff so gar nichts mit dem Inhalt zu tun hat.

Und (gerade nicht aktuell nachgeschaut): Es wäre schön, wenn der Date-Header die korrekte Zeitzone enthalten würde.

Ansonsten: Super, daß es Delta Chat gibt. Nutze es seit ca. 2017.
@fallenhitokiri@social.screamingatmyscreen.com @Michie164@mastodon.social

Easter/April offer 🐣 if you are onboarding a small group of family/friends to #deltachat and/or want to setup a insta-federated #chatmail relay let us know about any issues. Just post on fediverse and tag us. In case of bugs/issues we'll see to privately set up a support chat to help sort out any issues, or file accordingly to our development tracker. We want Delta to work flawlessly for private chatting and to better understand any remaining irritations or problems. Thanks and enjoy :)

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Isn't it ironic that a messenger that utilizes email protocols under the hood is pretty resistant to spam? For decades most people equated email with "spam" and yet, here we are. It's not the email protocols that cause spam but the fact that email adresses have been used as identity. #deltachat is moving away from this email address-as-identity model towards a cryptography based model where only chat contacts know your identity, and email is "just" the globally federated transport.

If you are using #deltachat with a #chatmail profile with private contacts there is no chance you are going to get spam. Why?

1) Spammers can't contact you based on your phone number like with other messengers.

2) Nobody knows your private address or cryptographic key except your contacts. Without that spammers/phishers can't contact you.

3) if joining a public group with unknown members better use a second chat profile which you can mute/remove as needed.

Privacy and peace of mind.

One week ago we migrated 21 people from Matrix to @delta and it has been a pretty good experience.

Not everything is working flawlessly but that also wasn’t expect. Plus we didn’t do a lot of debugging so I cannot rule out user error yet.

All 21 users are happy about the change. #deltachat

screamingatmyscreen.com/one-we

www.screamingatmyscreen.comOne week with Delta Chat - Timo Zimmermann Timo Zimmermann talking about software engineering, leading teams, consulting and start ups.

#deltachat is geared and optimized for private messaging even though it's successfully used for 100+ people chats as well. Doing large scale chats has two challenges:

- implementing scalable encryption so increased number of recipients does not increase message size/cpu cost for the sender

- grow good moderation tooling because public channels/chats invite a lot of spam, unwanted stuff

For large chats today we recommend to control who joins, and maybe use a separate chat profile.

@delta, #DeltaChat является моим любимым приложением на #Android уже не первый год, но всё же есть несколько "но":
1. Список рассылки постоянно приходится переименовывать, т.к. заданное имя/название сбрасывается с каждой новой рассылкой.
2. Отступы по бокам съедают полезное пространство не добавляя при том никакого удобства или эстетики.
3. Почему-то панель навигации на белом фоне, в то время как тема придожения и тема оформления системы тёмные.

#discord IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!

I'm shure fecking #dread has better moderation and I'd rather use #MicrosoftTeams + #Slack cuz those at least have proper #moderation tools.

  • And I'd rather subscribe to the #LKML and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty #SaaS!

Case in point: I'd rather #SelfHost all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other #GDPR-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.

I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does everything but horrible to go with multiple smaller & good tools

Check @alternativeto and @european_alternatives for options.

#DeltaChat is so much better than Signal when it comes to hardware support. Get this: when setting up a new phone I lose access to previous conversations and media DESPITE having a synced desktop app. Why?

Well in Signal your desktop client is not a real client! Switching hardware with #DeltaChat was quick, easy and successful. Every client is real.👍

Signal:😖

I do wonder why they fail so hard there, as they generally have things figured out, too.

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@linuxer @stormii @karl_ist_super ja, sowas wie @monocles / #monoclesChat, @gajim / #gajim & @delta / #deltaChat...

  • Nur weil etwas alle/die meisten machen wird's nicht weniger falsch!

Natürlich kannste #Signal nutzen, nur dann musste halt auch drauf klarkommen dass so zentralisierter shice durch eine christofaschistische Regierung (#USA) irgendwann eingestampft wird.

  • Davon dass es eine bescheuerte Idee ist aus gründen von #Datenschutz, einen Anbieter zu nutzen der ne #Telefonnummer verlangt mal abgesehen.

#Monocles verlangt hingegen garkeine Daten und erlaubt anonymes Bezahlen per #Monero & #CashByMail !

#openpgp traditions and #signal both bind a cleartext identifier, phone number or email address, to a cryptographic key. It opens up attack vectors as the servers/orgs controlling this binding can interfere.

#deltachat avoids such cleartext identity bindings by creating random #chatmail addresses, as transport only. The cryptographic key becomes the identifier and we want it hidden from the transport layer. Only people being in end-to-end encrypted chat need to identify each other, after all.