Finally made some progress in testing the mbins ActivityPub code
Still a long way to go though and paratest is giving me nightmares
Finally made some progress in testing the mbins ActivityPub code
Still a long way to go though and paratest is giving me nightmares
tl;dr — how do PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin handle cross-posting?
Currently, when a NodeBB admin moves a topic from the uncategorized pseudo-category into a local category, we federate out an as:Announce
, people typically think of that as a "boost" or "share".
That worked fine when the entirety of the category list was your local categories plus the "uncategorized" pseudo-category. However, now that NodeBB is moving towards supporting remote categories (via group actors), this UX makes less sense. We wouldn't want to "move" a topic out of the category it is supposed to be in, just for visibility to other local users. Additionally, topic moving was limited to administrators, and from the get-go we knew it would eventually cause issues because people other than admins would want to share topics to other local users.
This is where the "cross-post" functionality comes in, which is entirely new to NodeBB. I don't think this is new to other AP-enabled threaded discussion software. The idea would be that if a new topic comes in, whether it's uncategorized or not, any user could "cross-post" that topic to a local category, where it would be visible to other users on that instance. On the ActivityPub side, we would then federate out an as:Announce
as we already do.
Is this what PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin already do, if they support cross-posting? What other alternative solutions would there be to this problem?
cc @rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz @andrew_s@piefed.social @nutomic@lemmy.ml @bentigorlich@wehavecookies.social
@jasperb @sebastian @futurebird @Gargron @dansup @pixelfed Interesting detail from that link: "Mastodon has been developing a built-in groups feature for some time now, but it hasn’t been released yet. From the screenshots posted so far, it seems it will be more of a Facebook Groups type forum rather than a public discussion list. (You can see highly technical details and screenshots of this upcoming Groups feature on their github page https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/19059 )
"However, it is unclear if Mastodon groups will work across the Fediverse or only on Mastodon. Guppe is platform-neutral, and will work on any kind of Fediverse server that supports microblogging including Mastodon, Friendica and others."
https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
Lots of activity on the Github page around 2022 by @ClearlyClaire but not much since?
Also, there's a video on how it'll work, and this note: "This PR is not intended to be merged outside of purely development environments until it's finished. While it has reached a pretty stable state, groups are a complicated topic, and the database model, API and protocol design may change before the PR gets merged, with no clear migration path between versions of this PR."
Mbin v1.8.1 released
Mbin v1.8.1 released #mbin #update #release #fediverse #software #php #symfony #federated #microblogging #activitypub #link-aggregator #updates@verge Thankfully, there is now the billiionaire-free decentralized #threadiverse: #Lemmy, #Mbin and #Piefed
Groups are not new to Pixelfed, we have webUI support but the feature wasn't polished enough for use, until now
Groups will be compatible with #Lemmy, #Mbin, #Smithereen and other projects, and will resemble Facebook Groups in our official app!
Stay tuned, we'll be shipping the updated Groups support in the app and webUI this weekend
I gruppi non sono una novità per Pixelfed, abbiamo il supporto webUI ma la funzionalità non era abbastanza perfezionata per l'uso, fino ad ora:pixelfed:I gruppi saranno compatibili con #Lemmy, #Mbin, #Smithereen e altri progetti e assomiglieranno ai gruppi di Facebook nella nostra app ufficiale!
Restate sintonizzati, invieremo il supporto aggiornato per i gruppi nell'app e nell'interfaccia utente Web questo fine settimana
Il post di @dansup
mastodon.social/@dansup/114160…
I’ve created #Piefed’s first dedicated community to movies!
If you’re on #Mastodon, #Akkoma, or #Sharkey, follow it here:
And if you’re on #Lemmy, #Mbin, or Piefed follow it here:
!movies@piefed.social
From now on, all my posts about movies, including reviews, will be posted there.
Everyone is welcome and you’re allowed to chat about whatever movie-related things you like.
Alright, so a mbin instance has taken two of my posts (that I wrote here on my profile) and included them in a topic as if I had posted them there myself. It doesn't look like a share or a repost, it looks like I went there and I wrote it there. (see screenshot)
Except that I had no idea it had happened, I couldn't even tell which instance had done it before someone found it for me.
Apparently, the posts were extracted from a hashtag feed.
I figured out because I started to get tons of replies (not always very nice) from accounts that looked like Reddit accounts. You know "TerribleYusRname96" style with no profile pictures. Most being Lemmy accounts.
Does anyone know about that? And especially how to prevent it from happening, because I find the process quite misleading and disingenuous. At least, show that it's a post from somewhere else and notify the author.
#Fediverse #Lemmy #Mbin #Hashtags
#Piefed (#Reddit alternative), and #Lemmy and #MBIN alternative too, has added a nice new feature called "Feeds" which is like multi-reddit. You can create your own public feeds by combining a number of communities together. People on any other Piefed instance can subscribe to your feed.
If you're interested in using Piefed as a Reddit alternative, or checking out this feature, I run a public instance, https://feddit.online. You can see all Piefed server choices at https://join.piefed.social/try/
This will also give current #SpaceHost #Kbin customers a path to migrate to #Mbin if they want to.
#SpaceHost is in the process of adding support for Mbin hosting.
It should be ready soon.
Just read a new (to me) term describing #mainstream #socialmedia platforms, "predatory platforms."
I like it. I think I may start using that.
#meta #facebook #instagram #tiktok #x #xitter #twitter #reddit #predatoryplatforms
#friendica #pixelfed #loops #mastodon #lemmy #mbin #fediverse
@elena oh wow didn’t know it was possible! Thanks for your advice! Random question, do you know how to apply the #bookface theme to #friendica ?
I’ve searched online and I only find dev blogs which I don’t understand. I hope I didn’t bite off more than I can chew! Currently looking at which place to call home: #mbin #mastodon or #friendica . I have to look at what I need and want to follow, and whether they can talk both ways, so holding thinbs to find one and #selfhost !
It’s true. I’m retiring @fediversenews, and have created @fediversenews as its successor.
I used to post constantly to that #Friendica group. However, I am incredibly pleased with the moderation toolkit of #Piefed, so it only makes sense to use that software instead.
For those who don’t know, Piefed is a #Reddit-like platform – similar to #Lemmy and #Mbin – but I feel it has amongst the best community management tools of the federated Reddit-like platforms. So I am thrilled to be migrating an old community over to Piefed.
Oh yeah, and I’m looking for moderators. So if this interests you, let me know.
RE: https://piefed.social/post/488665
Confirmed. You can post from a microblogging platform (e.g., #Mastodon, #Akkoma, etc.) to #Piefed simply by mentioning the group actor in your post.
Piefed sticks a [Microblog] descriptor in the title so that #Lemmy, #Mbin, and Piefed readers know that the post originated from a microblog.
To use this feature, you need to use @
for the mention instead of !
. For example @community@exampleserver.com
.
This is yet another reason I’ll be using Piefed to create communities.
So it seems to me that, for posting purposes, #Piefed is much friendlier to #Mastodon and #Akkoma than #Mbin is.
When you look up a Piefed post on microblogging platforms, it returns a link to the post as well as the body:
https://piefed.social/post/488492
But when you look up an Mbin post, it repeats the title twice and does not display the body:
For this reason, I’ll be posting from piefed.social simply because I want my posts to be readable on microblogging platforms. To be sure, this is not a slam against Mbin. I acknowledge it’s a work in progress. But I have to use the platform that works for my purposes.