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Got Root :hispagatos: # :idle:

Today we added a new #usenet peer, 2 our usenet instance that is now 3 years old is awesome how new usenet instances are poping up I like it way more than #mastodon I miss 90% of interesting toots, on usenet is async I can follow a thread anytime!

for more info the new peer is news.dnd3.net
see infeed status:
news.hispagatos.org/innfeed.st

#hackerculture #hackers #innd #peers #decentralization #libre #transparent
@hispagatos @2600

for a usenet 2,0 account see: sybershock.com/#usenet

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Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

Geheimwaffe Freundlichkeit: Welche "Netiquetten" gelten heute noch?
derstandard.at/story/300000026

Ich fand den Umgangston im #Internet zu Zeiten von #Netiquette + Leuten, die sie kannten und respektierten deutlich besser.

Und das hatte aus meiner Sicht kaum bis gar nichts mit dem Thema Sietzen zu tun, wie die Kommentare im Artikel suggerieren.

DER STANDARD · Geheimwaffe Freundlichkeit: Welche "Netiquetten" gelten heute noch?In den 90ern, der frühen Phase des World Wide Web, entstanden viele "Netiquetten", also Verhaltensregeln für Nutzer. Wie aktuell sind diese noch? Was hat sich im Netz verändert, was nicht?
#Benehmen#Umgang#SozialeNetzwerke
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Got Root :hispagatos: # :idle:

Hello #hackers #tinkerers #explorers #minimalist #oldschoolers etc there are now #usenet talks about a new newsgroup for the #rust #rustlang programming language, you can participate in the #big-8 #big8 decision making in the #newsgroup news.groups.proposals the thread is under comp.lang.rust the big-8 approved an official #go lang newsgroup last year or so, among all the old newsgroups cleaning and spam blocking this is another sympton of the revamping of usenet 2.0 news.novabbs.org/usenet/articl

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Fedi.Video

Thunderbird is a free open source communications suite (supports email, RSS, XMPP, IRC, Matrix, Usenet). They have an official video account at:

➡️ @thunderbird@tilvids.com

They've already posted 29 videos, if these haven't federated to your server yet you can browse them all at tilvids.com/a/thunderbird/vide

They also have a general social media account at @thunderbird@mastodon.online

TILvidsThunderbirdThe Thunderbird Project is a family of free & open-source email software and productivity solutions for managing your personal and professional communications. Available on Linux, macOS and Win...
#FeaturedPeerTube#Thunderbird#Email
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sunflowerinrain

Sad news of Mozilla. It's time, finally, to delete Firefox.
Now I want to replace Thunderbird. It's been a battle recently, slow or freezing, unable to connect to the usenet server.

Yes, I still use Usenet. Not for binaries, but for the discussion groups. They are somewhat deserted now, but perhaps some of those who followed the lures of money-making platforms will return.
#Recommendations, please, for access to #Usenet?

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éric 🚲 🇪🇺 :emacs:

This toot, about the story about the boy who cried wolf,

beige.party/@intransitivelie/1

is excellent, as are many of the replies. Examples such as this one, with many replies and conversations in effect, make me wish that #ActivityPub were based on #nntp to make it easier to read.

beige.partyTrivial Einstein (@intransitivelie@beige.party)Imagine if the boy who cried wolf had actually seen a wolf every time, but by crying wolf he scared the wolf away. The villagers would show up, and there's this boy pointing at the forest and saying they just missed the wolf and weren't they lucky he had been there to warn them. And the villagers would probably take that badly, after the first time. They'd probably write a story about it. Meanwhile, the boy is scared shitless. On the one hand, there's this fucking wolf who is getting more and more brazen. Maybe next time the boy won't be able to scare the wolf away. And then not only will the boy be in trouble, but the village will be in trouble. Meanwhile on the other hand he knows that if he keeps crying wolf, either the villagers will stop showing up at all, or they'll view him as a bigger problem than the wolf. Either way, the boy is going to be in deep shit there too. You might forgive the boy for getting the fuck out of dodge. Let someone else watch for wolves. See how they like it. But he doesn't. He stays and watches, and the wolf comes back, and this time none of the boy's cries drive the wolf away because the wolf can sense that no one from the village is coming. And the villagers stand by and listen to the boy's increasingly desperate screams until it's too late. Who's the hero of this story? Now, if you were a villager who had just committed negligent homicide by wolf, which turned out to have been a very real risk, you could do two things. You could learn from this experience that sometimes warnings should be heeded regardless of whether they seem to be false alarms because it's better to go out to defend the flocks from a wolf a thousand times when there's no wolf than it is not to go once when there is. That's the sensible thing to do, certainly. The money is on overreacting if overreacting is low-cost and the risk of under-reacting is high. Or you could write your story about this boy who fucked around and found out. That makes you look better, I guess. And it relieves you of responsibility for defense of the village and your livelihoods. The boy should have known better. You may have figured out that I'm not talking about boys and wolves anymore. We have a whole classic parable on the subject of not crying wolf, to the point where "crying wolf" is something of a dead cliché. In the English-speaking world, pretty much everyone knows what "to cry wolf" means, even if they've never actually heard the parable. We don't think about the story. We make the semantic leap from the phrase to "false positive." And we are taught over and over that crying wolf is always bad. Which is why we find ourselves in situations like the one in which we currently find ourselves. We are victims of survivorship bias: we only remember the times when the warnings seemed unfounded because if they had been founded we wouldn't be here to notice. Fascism stalks the forest like a horde of hungry wolves, but because we only remember the times when fascism didn't eat us, we think all warnings are unfounded. Never mind that in most cases not only were the warnings founded but the action taken in response to those warnings was what kept fascism at bay. Look at Y2K, which, if you're too young to remember, was something of a joke. It was regularly held up as a giant cry of wolf because, well, the world didn't end when the clock ticked over. Very little happened, really. So everyone breathed a sigh of relief and immediately set to work making sure that we forgot some inconvenient facts. Y2K "didn't happen" because a lot of unappreciated work was done to keep it from happening. A lot. Far more than we were told in the general public. This was, after all, the era of Reaganomics, when the Democrat who was in office was about as conservative as a lot of Republicans were, where it seemed like everyone had a hardon for gutting government spending and bureaucracy. So the unsexy work of making sure that the world didn't end was just waste, right? What about September 11, about a year later? Turns out that there were large numbers of boys who had been crying wolf about Al Qaeda for years, but a lot of unappreciated work was done in an attempt to keep that wolf at bay. It wasn't going in guns blazing, and it wasn't necessarily the ideal way to do it, but it also wasn't sexy so no one paid much attention. Pandemics past have been averted and turned into jokes. Swine flu? Huge joke. Bird flu? Nothingburger. All wolves which failed to eat us, largely because someone cried and then unsexy work was done because of that warning. But we don't need the CDC. It's a waste of taxpayer dollars. After all, what has it ever done for us? There was never a wolf to defend against. We teach our children what we want them to know. And what we want them to know is that it's always worse to be an inconvenient Cassandra than a dead Tiresias. It's better to hold your tongue and let the wolf eat everything than it is to give a warning too soon, before you can see the whites of its eyes as it were. Keep your powder dry. Don't be too hasty. And what's the life of one annoying boy, after all? And another. And another. Something keeps eating the boys you send out to watch the sheep, but as long as they don't cry, you don't have to deal with that. Teach your children silence. There might not be a wolf after all. [EDIT TO POSTSCRIPT: There's good stuff in the replies. I know that fedi makes it hard to see replies sometimes, and I know that frequently replies are unreadable garbage anyway, but in this case several excellent points have been raised by people other than me which don't really work without context, but you're reading this so you have context, so go read them.]
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teledyn 𓂀

@sundogplanets

I'm curious, and also trying to understand if it was hallucination, but any elder #astrodon folks remember 'Nancy' from #Usenet sci.astro days?

Gawd, I miss Nancy. Not for the totally absurd claims about #PlanetX, but more for the way otherwise sane astronomers were baited into debate. It was true theatre. Personally, I thought they were some punk performance artists who had planned some art event on the day of Nbiru's 'impact' and what better PR than actual astronomer quotes!

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