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Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@amoroso" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@amoroso</a> My thoughts:- They mix up Markdown with the general term lightweight <a href="https://graz.social/tags/markup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#markup</a> language (as if <a href="https://graz.social/tags/Markdown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Markdown</a> is the only <a href="https://graz.social/tags/LML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LML</a> syntax)- They ignore all other markup syntax examples such as (La)TeX, HTML, ...- great screenshots of Word for DOS upwards 👍- the title should be "<a href="https://graz.social/tags/WYSIWYG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WYSIWYG</a> vs. LML" (instead of the Word vs. Markdown story)- no mentioning of other LML examplesWell it looks, as if we're settling for a mediocre standard again.Related: <a href="https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/</a><a href="https://graz.social/tags/orgdown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#orgdown</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/orgmode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#orgmode</a>

Blake PattersonMultiScribe on the 128K enhanced Apple IIe<a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/AppleII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AppleII</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/AppleIIe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AppleIIe</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apple</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#retrocomputing</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/vintagecomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vintagecomputing</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/screenshot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#screenshot</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/wordprocessor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#wordprocessor</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/GUI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GUI</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/WYSIWYG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WYSIWYG</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Apple2Forever" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apple2Forever</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Pointybirds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pointybirds</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/poetry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#poetry</a>

ITs History!Xerox PARC came up with the first computer that had a <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/GUI?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GUI</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/OS?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OS</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/mouse?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mouse</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/HDD?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HDD</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/ethernet?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ethernet</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/email?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#email</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/emojis?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#emojis</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/WYSIWYG?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WYSIWYG</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/SuperPaint?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SuperPaint</a>, <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/InterPress?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#InterPress</a>, and access to a <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/LaserPrinter?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LaserPrinter</a>. The <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Xerox?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Xerox</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Alto?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Alto</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/PointView?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PointView</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/OperatingSystem?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OperatingSystem</a> was pirated first by <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Apple?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apple</a> and <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Microsoft?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a> later. <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/SVG?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SVG</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/vector?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vector</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/graphic?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#graphic</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/design?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#design</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/retrocomputer?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#retrocomputer</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/illustration?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#illustration</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/gfkDSGN?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#gfkDSGN</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/FOSS?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/art?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#art</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Inkscape?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Inkscape</a>

deBaer<a href="https://23.social/tags/WYSIWYG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WYSIWYG</a>-Textverarbeitung ("What you see is what you get") war ein in den 1970ern und 1980ern verbreitetes Paradigma, das versprach, dass man Dokumente auf dem Computerbildschirm genauso sehen könnte, wie sie später ausgedruckt würden. Seither hat man festgestellt, dass diese Art der Dokumentenverarbeitung nicht dazu geeignet ist, Inhaltsverzeichnisse oder Fußnoten zu erstellen, Bilder einzufügen oder mehr als einseitige Dokumente zu erstellen, auch wenn Nostalgiker weiterhin daran festhalten.

Stefan BohacekWould anyone be interested in contributing to this interactive guide + WYSIWIG editor that lets you make simple web pages and shows you how to host them for free?<a href="https://simplepagebuilder.app" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://simplepagebuilder.app</a>More about the project: <a href="https://stefanbohacek.com/project/a-simple-page-builder-app/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://stefanbohacek.com/project/a-simple-page-builder-app/</a>Repo + open issues: <a href="https://github.com/stefanbohacek/simplepagebuilder/issues" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/stefanbohacek/simplepagebuilder/issues</a><a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/indieweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#indieweb</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/websites" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#websites</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/PersonalWebsites" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PersonalWebsites</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/WYSIWYG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WYSIWYG</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/contributors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#contributors</a>

Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:I have to work with <a href="https://graz.social/tags/WYSIWYG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WYSIWYG</a> tools (in my case: <a href="https://graz.social/tags/LibreOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LibreOffice</a> Calc) for a customer project this week.I nearly forgot how tedious it is to work with this kind of tools. 😔 Just one example of many: The (by default) activated "Tools > AutoInput" caused broken paste results from other tools, not realizing until the work was almost done. It's almost as if an LLM is trying to trick me into wrong results.

Stefan BohacekI mention it in the article, but one experiment I've been working on is <a href="https://simplepagebuilder.app" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://simplepagebuilder.app</a>, which lets you make a simple web page, and shows you how to host it on Glitch or Neocities.I also opened a feature request to have something like this integrated on Glitch, so if you use it, and like the idea, go give it a vote!<a href="https://support.glitch.com/t/a-visual-editor-for-glitch/67029" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://support.glitch.com/t/a-visual-editor-for-glitch/67029</a><a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/indieweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#indieweb</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/WYSIWYG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WYSIWYG</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/websites" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#websites</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/PersonalWebsites" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PersonalWebsites</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/glitch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#glitch</a> <a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/tags/MadeWithGlitch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MadeWithGlitch</a>

TOVTinyMCE also asks users to register before downloading on their website even though the files are available on GitHub. <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/tinymce" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tinymce</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/wysiwyg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#wysiwyg</a>

TOVAny suggestions for a WYSIWYG editor that can be embedded on a web page?<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/wysiwyg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#wysiwyg</a>

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